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I first posed for nude photos with my girl-friend in the 1970s We took nudes of each other, I was teaching her photography, she was an artist, a painter of what was called "outsider art" I was a bit embarrassed by the photos and I didn't  want anyone to see them. I had worked professionally for one year as  a photographer for a bank doing architects and brochures. My hobby was street photography and I was published in the San Francisco Bay Guardian

I didn't pose anymore until 2010 when I switched my photographic director to art nudes, glamour, lifestyle. I put a portfolio up on model mayhem, I met two female nude models on MM who were also photographers. I agreed to pose nude for them in return for them posing nude for me. We did the photography on Baker Beach nude beach in San Francisco.

The 2nd of the two shoots was near the end where the rocks are. The nude beach had been invaded by fishermen who sometimes expressed displeasure by nudity but its a legal nude beach had been by custom since  . Finally they sort of agreed to ignore each other. We took turns of taking photos each other, when it was my turn I started to dread it as I found it embarrassing, to walk nude into the ocean in front of those men.

After that I sought out photography students, art photographers hobbyists to pose nude. I found it  fun and liberating to be nude. I also found it helped me with photographing nudes myself It gave me some empathy, I photographed nude males as well as females.

I found that male nudes was one of last taboos in the nude art photography field. Male nude models were looked down upon by most male photographers on Model Mayhem. When the male models came into the chat room the male photographers would tell them "put your pants on!" As if it was something perverse to be ashamed of.

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